“hold off, Is it a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Why don’t we make some noise for soles at home! (It really is me, the bottom in the house.) Bottom Culture is quite something™ on line as of late! Exactly what does it truly indicate as a bottom? Exactly why has got the society made the decision bottoming is just being worried to inquire about for just what need? And exactly how does an individual start determining when they like bottoming?!

With these questions rattling around the thoughts, requiring answers, Drew and I knew there was just one person we can easily head to for a curved, passionate dialogue about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is one of the most useful people I’m sure creating and tweeting these days, and as a bottom my self, I am honored to call the woman my personal chief. Chingy helps us tease out what it method for end up being a bottom, precisely why she detests “smol bean” bottom part society, the human body as opening, along with your human body as

entire

. Its a really beautiful talk, if I do say-so myself! Please know that i realize that we state “gorgeous” approximately three thousand instances this occurrence, and I am pursuing assistance for my personal condition. (The condition is actually talking like 57 year old white gay guy.)

And! Recently’s online game requires myself guessing in the event that complicated plots Drew describes are part of a film or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!


PROGRAM RECORDS

+ Browse Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+listed here is a listing of every flicks that Drew utilized in her game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Discussing Kid

    (1938)


  • Pierrot le Fou


    (1965)

  • Dark Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform the best work of the woman job in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo talk one to rest while dressed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

as you deserve that.


+Cindy Wilson associated with B52s is quite hot and honestly? “Love Shack” however whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: i have simply been bottoming since I have ended up being, I don’t know, as far back as I’m able to bear in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back i could recall, i usually planned to be a base, no, but type of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I’m Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Introducing

Wait, Is It a romantic date

?


Christina

:

Wait, Is It a romantic date?

is an Autostraddle podcast specialized in the only, the only real the biggest concern of one’s occasions: hold off, Is This a Date?


Drew

: And, wow, i truly just froze up truth be told there.


Christina

: I found myself like, oh shit, I found myself expected to state some thing! [laughs]


Drew

: i am actually rapid on banter, my brain simply… The reality is that I happened to be checking out over my game records, which we aren’t at but because we still need to present our selves. Very, I’m going to just be sure to remain concentrated on one task at a time.


Christina

: Focus upwards!


Drew

: My name is Drew Gregory, i will be a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans girl.


Christina

: Hi, I am Christina Tucker, forgot my final name for a hot minute, no big deal. I’m additionally a writer at Autostraddle and other locations on the web, a podcaster, a gay black colored woman. That’s types of it, puppy, which is myself.


Drew

: i enjoy it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: Now the video game.


Drew

: are we able to have fun with the game?


Christina

: are we able to get right to the video game? I will reveal’re excited, I’m able to reveal’re merely shaking.


Drew

: Thus, i am maintaining an aspiration journal since 2007, and premise for this video game is-


Christina

: I did not understand this in regards to you!


Drew

: Yes, it is not as up to date today, we familiar with jot down all my personal fantasies nowadays its only if anything truly sticks. But, the idea of the game is actually, am we explaining the story of an aspiration I had while I had been an adolescent, or was I explaining the storyline of a film that we cherished whenever I had been a teenager?


Christina

: Oh son, ok.


Drew

: So, just how it will probably get is I’ll constantly describe it an aspiration and in 1st person. Very, when it had been

Superstar Wars,

I would end up like, i am in space and I’m combating as part of a rebellion, so there’s an evil  guy who’s wearing a black colored robot suit and it also looks like he’s my dad. Which is the way I’ll explain it, how we describe ambitions, but sometimes it are going to be a dream, sometimes it’ll end up being from a movie. Prepared?


Christina

: I’m anything, I don’t know that i am prepared, but let’s rock. Why don’t we see what I’m able to carry out right here.


Drew

: Okay, i am on a beach and I also see this strange guy dressed in black colored. The guy tells me which he’s Death and now we can play a-game to choose easily reside or if perhaps the guy requires me personally. We are able to get away, but everywhere I-go, everyone is ill and that I feel Death continues to be after me.The merely happy component happens when I satisfy a theater troupe and they are a lot of enjoyment.


Christina

: This,I think, is an aspiration.


Drew

: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: this will be going to be an actual gotcha on CT’s traditional motion picture knowledge, because the thing I know that Drew, within adolescence, wasn’t doing was actually seeing motion pictures that i’ll accept. Now, I’m style of wishing that I have seen do not require. I believe that’ll be more fun for me personally.


Drew

: Another one, i am ending up in my family several Italian United states gangsters. One of many gangsters needs that I provide over some cash, but my loved ones and I also were able to break free. We hightail it through all this cold terrain, on your way I meet an actress and connect to her. We end in a suburb. I do believe we’re going to start another existence collectively until she requires us to a huge mansion, and that I realize it is one of the gangster. It absolutely was all a trap, the gangster arrives so there’s a confrontation. We kill him, the fantasy concludes using actress carrying out a musical number.


Christina

: Is it a movie?


Drew

: this will be a dream I got in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i need to keep in mind that its 2000, it is old-school Drew brain. That is what i need to recall.


Drew

: In addition want, just what flicks had been I watching at the time and exactly how much did that influence my dreams?


Christina

: Well, yeah, obviously quite a bit!


Drew

: an enjoyable simple truth is that I found myself actually, i did not add this simply because I was thinking this might have out, nevertheless gangster had been Tony Soprano because I became enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. So, that is a fun little reality. Okay, next one, We have a significant assignment, but this hot lady shows up and begins sidetracking me. I do want to be along with her, but I additionally should get might work accomplished, thus I tell this lady to go out of. She keeps soon after me personally. Out of the blue, a leopard appears inside my area and that I need spend rest of the dream trying to capture the leopard. I’m nevertheless really anxious, I never ever complete might work, but at the very least the lady is hot.


Christina

: This has become an aspiration of yours, this has as a Drew dream.


Drew

: This Can Be Howard Hawks’

Discussing Child

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s an aspiration of yours, this is the the majority of Drew fantasy i have heard. Now at this stage, i am only likely to be rewriting film history, to match my whims.


Drew

: Great, I love that. Okay, I’m at a party and I cannot really like anyone there. Finally, I see this girl, I used to have a crush on and we choose to keep together. We head to the woman household, however they are chased down by this selection of men that trying to eliminate the woman. We end on a beach plus it appears like we’re going to be okay before men look for all of us. She eventually ends up getting into this different man, therefore I take cartoonish dynamite and decide to strike my self up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: this will be! It is Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot le Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: have never seen, but that appears like a ding dang flick in my opinion.


Drew

: Great, Everyone loves it. There’s a narration explaining an odd watercraft like construction that is impossible to damage. I want on a retreat near the construction, the retreat is sort of theater relevant, type of religious. You will find a crush about girl during the retreat, but she’s got a boyfriend. Amid the performances and traditions, there are plenty of drama between me and this woman along with her sweetheart, it finishes with me by yourself. There is a sequence exposing the boat framework is impossible to destroy because a mechanical supply fixes it inside the evening.


Christina

: that may be such a thing in numerous steps, i will say motion picture again, you will want to?


Drew

: it really is an aspiration from 2011, that did have narration from someone else, you know, it happens!


Christina

: this is actually great promo to own an aspiration journal, because personally i think like it would be fun easily could recall my personal hopes and dreams this way.


Drew

: no body likes once you explain your own ambitions in their mind. I do however, and I’m your pal, if you need to record your own fantasies and tell me, i’d like to discover all of them.


Christina

: Okay, that’s great to listen to.


Drew

: We have two a lot more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am in a beautiful yard with several buddies, most of us be seemingly getting out of bed from being drugged. We are obligated to bathe in an acid that empties pigment and then we become golden-haired and blue-eyed. People responsible begin teaching united states to destroy, as it happens this place is operate by a crazy dictator, we resist acquiring totally brainwashed. There is this girl indeed there I have a crush on and I also convince the lady to leave with me, while leaking out I get recorded and slain, nevertheless girl will get out. When she simply leaves the jail, she finds out we’re in the exact middle of a forest so there’s no place to go.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: that will be the initial dream during my fantasy record from, we stated, “2007.” It’s actually 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: I always believed it was fascinating that I die in fantasy, nevertheless other person continues on. However, there’s some weird sex stuff going on here, and I also’m planning need to contemplate any particular one for a time.


Christina

: positively do this.


Drew

: Okay, I have an additional.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i have been considering the possibility to be a dancer, my mother claims i will not have the ability to do it. There’s this additional lady for the program which In my opinion is hot, but I’m stressed she’s going to replace me personally. I am struggling in rehearsal, but end right up leaving together with the woman, we connect. It is hot, but personally i think myself dropping control, we go back to the party tv series. My body system appears to be morphing into something different, I’m stressed that i will damage.


Christina

: this might be a film.


Drew

: So,

Dark Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, which

Black Swan

, certainly.


Drew

: Have you ever viewed

Dark Swan

? That was one I thought you’ve observed.


Christina

: I’ve come across

Ebony Swan

, I… Fun fact, I went on a night out together with a man observe

Dark Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: merely directly situations i did so.


Drew

: that was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it had been unusual.


Drew

: Did you just like the film? Performed the guy like the movie?


Christina

: i do believe, I got currently observed it, i believe I found myself similar, “Let’s get find it again.” I believe, I was extremely pro

Black Swan,

and also for straight heterosexual reasons, undoubtedly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he had been like, “that has been strange.” And that I had been similar, “Oh well, we aren’t likely to consistently big date.”


Drew

: Wow, well I wish him top, i really hope he’s somewhere successful. Many thanks for playing this video game with me.


Christina

: Wow, i am so grateful we moved two for but numerous we did on that.


Drew

: maybe not terrible.


Christina

: Not awful.


Drew

: You Probably Did better than Elise performed when I desired to see if this was a functional video game that may work, and she ended up being my personal guinea pig. Thus, she only got one right.


Christina

: reasonable enough.


Drew

: Should we proceed to our very own main topic for the week?


Christina

: Let’s enter into it, why don’t we get this unique visitor in.


Drew

: Well, I would like to first declare that the major topic in the week is actually bottoming, therefore we could have only one extremely special visitor.


Christina

: It is only one individual.


Drew

: are you able to please introduce your self?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. Im a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather-based dyke muppet. I am additionally The united states’s number one bottom.


Christina

: Yes, i believe once we had been discussing subjects and in addition we’re like, “we can easily explore bottoming so there’s literally one person we could have throughout the pod to take action, there is singular individual who is quite virtually the Supreme.”


Chingy

: thanks for recognizing, it feels very good to own the wonder acknowledged, thanks a lot


Christina

: Yes, and you’ve completed great work, and here we are recognizing it.


Drew

: i do want to understand as soon as you feel you turned into The united states’s greatest bottom. Whenever had been that a word and a label and an identity which you actually held onto?


Chingy

: Well, so I usually only say, “i am the base Supreme.” Because, exactly who cares about America?


Drew

: Certain.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Chingy

: Yeah, i believe that I always was proficient at bottoming, then again in 2017 or something, I went along to a play party which was simply for fem top sadists conquering me personally up for six to seven hrs straight, also it was only myself, and I had been like, “Oh, i am the greatest that is actually ever already been.” Then, I think from that point, i recently kept escalating being, wow, i am very fun to watch. Wow, I’m thus interesting as a bottom, that is wow, everyone whom reaches peak me can be so happy. And, it really moved following that, In my opinion, then we penned articles known as i am a better Bottom Than You. Discover Why. It was sort of a manifesto, it was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: certainly, can verify.


Chingy

: And, many individuals have actually said, “its changed how they see sex.” And, I really like that a lot. Oahu is the one article back at my internet site that I created here. I’ve created at

Vice

,

Teen Fashion

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was actually the initial spot I blogged, actually. But yeah, that’s the one blog site on my internet site, if you’d like to go here.


Christina

: I favor a substantial brand, I adore knowing a brandname, and that I believe’s actually gorgeous, just, brand management of your very own bottomy yourself. I think, which is truly gorgeous to see.


Chingy

: thanks, i obtained my personal basic writing chance at

Autostraddle

because I found myself currently talking about being a base, and being poly, being actually deep into being a fabric dyke. And since after that, i have started to write about a bunch of other stuff, but being bottom great just sort of will be the one through distinctive line of all of it.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I also feel you’re an extremely active bottom plus in the manner that you reveal, and talk about, and I think experience bottoming that you’re extremely productive. While, i do believe there’s lots of the queer society, possibly, especially the lesbian society, that maybe thinks of bottoming as… I am not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we frequently declare that there’s way less bottoms than folks think are soles. In my opinion there’s a big change between getting a bottom and merely not knowing or seeking what you need. I think those are a couple of completely various things that folks conflate.


Christina

: I would personally need to concur, I also believe the way in which you explore bottoming is, I mean, let us just state it, plenty less annoying compared to the method more and more people explore getting a base or determine with bottom part tradition. Because, I do feel that what lots of people are saying explicitly or non explicitly is merely, I am idle and do not care and attention to complete any kind of activity, task, et-cetera, I would like situations completed to myself. And, basically need certainly to look for that call at in any manner, that affects my emotions. And, you are so great therefore powerful at being, these are the things that i’d like, bring them to me personally and I also will rock and roll the globe. Which gorgeous in my experience.


Chingy

: thank-you, I mean, that’s what you should do to get proficient at just anything, you need to put yourself available to choose from and check out to make blunders and obtain hurt slightly, and, I don’t know, study from it.


Christina

: In my opinion that is a great information, honestly.


Chingy

: I’ve simply already been bottoming since I have was, I don’t know, as far back as i could keep in mind. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to wealth” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, as far back as I am able to bear in mind, i usually wished to be a bottom. No, but form of, when I was 13 or 14, I was currently viewing BDSM internet sites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM web sites. Thus, I wasn’t under any delusions with what I became about, I found myself having girls we dated in high school choke me , I knew everything I wanted. And thus, that amount of consciousness recently offered myself a long time to understand what Needs and learn how to get it.


Christina

: Gorgeous, Drew, offer me personally how you feel on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m in fact really thrilled to fairly share this simply because i’m like in 2019 {when I|as I|while
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